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Истории с мейнфреймами.
sagerДата: Четверг, 28.10.2010, 16:13 | Сообщение # 1
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Уважаемые господа!
Извините, может я не туда попал или неудачно в разговор встрял, но у меня накопился один вопрос из жизни майнфреймов.
А история, в двух словах, следующая:
Жил был один майнфрейм ( IBM9672-R53) , никому не мешал , пылился среди кучи PC серверов и работало на нем полсотни пользователей и перегружали его раз в полгода. Но в один из дней из-за отключения электроэнергии перегрузить его не удалось.
А причиной было то , что развалился HDD на Support Elemente ...
И копий этого диска тоже не оказалось ...

Если кто сталкивался с такими ситуациями в жизни, подскажите, что можно сделать (или куда пойти) , чтобы процессор реанимировать?
Руководству жалко выбрасывать его из-за этого....

 
akostДата: Четверг, 28.10.2010, 16:37 | Сообщение # 2
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я знаю человека, который лечил такие проблемы. за некоторые деньги. если хотите, реанимирую его контакты.
 
sagerДата: Четверг, 28.10.2010, 18:40 | Сообщение # 3
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ДА!
Буду безмерно благодарен! (в пределах разумного)
 
andreДата: Пятница, 29.10.2010, 01:44 | Сообщение # 4
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Я занималась восстановлением HDD SE на IBM9672-R32 и IBM9672-R14. Если Вам нужна помощь, обращайтесь.
 
sagerДата: Пятница, 29.10.2010, 10:44 | Сообщение # 5
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Andre!
Спасибо!
Пытаюсь связаться с вами по mail , но у вас отвечают будто :
Failed to deliver to '...........com'
Your message stoped by SPAM-control.
For more information call to
+7(4217) 52-65-97.

Может я не прилично выгляжу?
Или стоит позвонить по этому телефону? smile
 
evgeniДата: Воскресенье, 28.11.2010, 06:03 | Сообщение # 6
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обращайтесь! можем поставить новый суппорт, или НМС к нему и любую другую железку, помочь с восстановлением и обслуживанием.
 
artДата: Понедельник, 30.01.2012, 16:19 | Сообщение # 7
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Мне кажется название темы немного диссонирует с содержанием. Поэтому вот, забавная история, произошедшая 1 апреля 1999 года. Хотя может и видели конечно )
 
akostДата: Вторник, 31.01.2012, 11:59 | Сообщение # 8
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Видели и ржали от души...
 
GregoryДата: Четверг, 02.02.2012, 17:47 | Сообщение # 9
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New Operating System (5781-WOW)

IBM Data Processing Division
Programming Announcement
New Operating System (5781-WOW)

Due to the fact that so many users have asked for an operating system of even greater capability than VM, IBM announces the Virtual Universe Operating System - OS/VU. Running under OS/VU, the individual user appears to have not merely a machine of his own, but an entire universe of his own, in which he can set up and take down his own programs, data sets, system networks, personnel, and planetary systems. He need only specify the universe he desires, and the OS/VU system generation program (IEHGOD) does the rest. This program will reside in SYS1.GODLIB. The minimum time for this function is 6 days of activity and 1 day of rest and review. In conjunction with OS/VU, all system utilities have been replaced by one program (IEHPROPHET) which will reside in SYS1.MESSIAH. This program has no parms or control cards as it knows what you want to do when it is executed.

Naturally, the user must have attained a certain degree of sophistication in the data processing field if an efficient utilization of OS/VU is to be achieved. Frequent calls to non-resident galaxies, for instance, can lead to unexpected delays in the execution of a job. Although IBM, through its
wholly-owned subsidiary, The United States, is working on a program to upgrade the speed of light and thus reduce the overhead of extraterrestrial and metadimensional paging, users must be careful for the present to stay within the laws of physics. IBM must charge an additional fee for violations. OS/VU will run on any IBM x0xx equipped with Extended WARP Feature. Rental is twenty million dollars per cpu/nanosecond.

Users should be aware that IBM plans to migrate all existing systems and hardware to OS/VU as soon as our engineers effect one output that is (conceptually) error-free. This will give us a base to develop an even more powerful operation system, target date 2001, designated "Virtual Reality".
OS/VR is planned to enable the user to migrate to totally unreal universes. To aid the user in identifying the difference between "Virtual Reality" and "Real Reality", a file containing a linear arrangement of multisensory total records of successive moments of now will be established. It's name will be SYS1.est.

For more information, contact your IBM Data Processing Representative.

Текст появился в середине 80-ых прошлого века, так что, возможно, не все с ним знакомы


Сообщение отредактировал Gregory - Четверг, 02.02.2012, 17:51
 
artДата: Четверг, 02.02.2012, 20:28 | Сообщение # 10
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Gregory, biggrin
 
GregoryДата: Пятница, 27.12.2013, 18:44 | Сообщение # 11
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Первые компьютеры были размером с две комнаты. Чтобы смотреть на них порно, нанимали людей, которые залезали на ЭВМ и занимались там сексом.
© bash.org

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MVS IS BREAKING MY HEART
(BONEY FINGERS)


--OR --

PATHETIQUE AND CRITIQUE IN 0-F MINOR
FOR SYSTEMS, OPERATIONS, AND DEVELOPMENT
OPUS NUMBER 2.3


WORDS: ANNE ASHLEY & DAVE THEWLIS
MUSIC: HOYT AXTON

IF IT IPLS THEN JES WON'T START,
AND IF IT GETS UP THEN IT FALLS APART.
MVS IS BREAKING MY HEART!
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

THE SYSTEM IS CRASHING, I'M HAVING A FIT,
AND DSS DOESN'T HELP A BIT,
A SHOVEL CAME WITH THE DEBUGGING KIT.
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS: WORK YOUR FINGERS TO THE BONE AND WHAT DO YOU GET?
BONEY FINGERS, BONEY FINGERS.

THE SRM IS A TURKEY IN DISGUISE,
AND MF/1 IS TELLING ME LIES:
START A JOB AND THE WHOLE THING DIES!
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

THE MEMORIES WON'T COMMUNICATE,
AND ASM SIMPLY DOESN'T RELATE,
SWAPPING SEEMS TO BE CONTROLLED BY FATE.
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS

THE CONTROL BLOCK STRUCTURE IS REALLY A MESS
WHO DESIGNED IT ARMONK WON'T CONFESS
INbREEDING AND INCEST IS OUR BEST GUESS, BUT
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.
1
THERE STILL EXISTS A CVT,
BUT IT LOST OUT TO THE ASCB,
AND WHERE THE HELL IS MY TCB?
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

ADDRESS SPACES ARE ALL THE RAGE,
MY TCB MUST BE OUT IN A PAGE,
WE THINK THE ARCHITECT'S KEPT IN A CAGE!
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

I CAN'T GET DISPATCHED, WITHOUT A DOUBT,
THE SRM'S IN CHARGE OF THE ROUT,
AND HE'S GOT THE APG SWAPPED OUT!
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS

ONCE UPON A TIME, THERE WAS A JES2,
ANOTHER DEFINITION IS, YOU REALLY GET SCREWED.
WHEN JES3 COMES, IT WILL DO IT TO YOU, BUT
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

JES2'S THERE AND THEY SAY IT WORKS,
NO JES3 BUT THEY CLAIM IT LURKS.
WE SUSPECT JES5 WILL BE WRITTEN BY TURKS.
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

TSO IS ANOTHER BIG MESS,
THE SYSTEM GETS MORE AND THE USER GETS LESS.
LET'S REPLACE THE SUCKER WITH TSS! @BWM78311
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS

WITH SMP THEY FUMBLED THE BALL,
AND PL/S MEANS TAKING A FALL.
THE SYSTEMS STAFF IS CLIMBING THE WALL!
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

PDS'S ARE REALLY GOOD FILES
BUT PID HAS DEVELOPED NEW STYLES:
THE SYSTEM NOW IS SHIPPED IN PILES.
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS
1
OUR SALESMAN TELLS US THAT IT'S ALL A BREEZE,
THE CONVERSION'S DONE WITH THE GREATEST OF EASE,
OUR DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO FREEZE, WELL
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

BUT HE DOESN'T MENTION, WITH HIS USUAL TACT,
THE ROUND HEELS WE NEVER SEEM TO LACK,
'CAUSE HE GETS 4K TO KEEP US ON OUR BACKS.
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

IN IBM, EVERYONE'S A BROTHER,
LIKE MOST FAMILIES THEY DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER
AND MVS CLEARLY STARTS WITH 'MOTHER'
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MORNING,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS

SOMEDAY MAYBE THEY WILL DO IT RIGHT,
BUT NOT WITHOUT ONE HELL OF A FIGHT,
CAN WE EVER GET THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT?
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE FUTURE,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

WHETHER Q OR FS THE RESULT'S THE SAME:
GETTING SCREWED WILL STILL BE THE NAME OF THE GAME.
AND WE ALL KNOW WHERE TO LAY THE BLAME, BUT
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE FUTURE,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

TO OBTAIN OUR INPUT IS THEIR CURRENT AMBITION
SO WE OFFER THIS CRITIQUE OF OUR OWN VOLITION:
COULDN'T IBM LEARN A NEW POSITION?
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER IN THE FUTURE,
MAYBE THINGS WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER.

CHORUS: WORK YOUR FINGERS TO THE BONE AND WHAT DO YOU GET?
BONEY FINGERS, BONEY FINGERS.

WORK YOUR FINGERS TO THE BONE AND WHAT DO YOU GET?
BONEY FINGERS, BONEY FINGERS.

MUSIC COPYRIGHT 1973 BY HOYT AXTOn.
WORDS COPYRIGHT 1975, 1977 BY DAVE THEWLIs.
PERMISSION GRANTED TO USE AND REPRODUCE
'MVS IS BREAKING MY HEART';
ALL RIGHTS REVERT TO THE AUTHORs.

Reposted from CBTTAPE File #240

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Еще один текст начала 80-ых прошлого века smile

//CREATION JOB (0000,EARTH),'GOD',PRTY=13,RESTART=EDEN,TIME=1440
//*
/*SETUP          DISK=PRIMAL
//*
//JOBLIB DD   DSN=UNIVERSE,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)
//*
//* FOR EXTENDED DOCUMENTATION ON THIS JOB REFER TO MEMBER
//* BOOK.ONE, CHAPTER,ONE OF SYSDOC FILE WORD.OF.GOD
//* TAMPER WITH THIS JOB AT YOUR OWN EXTREME RISK!
//*
//DAYONE EXEC  PGM=IEBGENER
//VOID   DD    DSN=CHAOS
//DAY    DD    DSN=LIGHT
//NIGHT  DD    DSN=DARKNESS
//SYSIN  DD    *
   LET THERE BE LIGHT, AND LET DARKNESS BE A SEPARATE DATASET!
//DAYTWO EXEC  PGM=SORT
//FIRM   DD    DSN=HEAVEN,DCB=DSORG=PO
//WATERS1 DD   DSN=HEAVEN(ABOVE)
//WATERS2 DD   DSN=HEAVEN(BELOW)
//SYSIN   DD   *
   LET THE FIRMANENT, CALLED HEAVEN, PARTITION THE WATERS!
//DAYTHREE EXEC PGM=MERGE
//MERGEIN  DD   DSN=BELOW
//MERGEOUT DD   DSN=DRY.LAND
//EARTH    DD   DSN=DRY.LANE
//BELOW    DD   DSN=SEAS
//FLORA    DD   DSN=GRASSES.HERBES
//         DD   DSN=FRUIT.TREES
//SYSIN    DD   *
   SET THE EARTH CONCATENATE GRASS AND TREES
//DAYFOUR  EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE
//SUN      DD   DSN=LIGHT
//MOON     DD   DSN=LIGHT
//STARS    DD   DSN=LIGHT
//SYSIN    DD   *
  LET THERE BE PANEL LIGHTS TO INDICATE THE STATUS OF
  THE UNIVERSE!
//DAYFIVE  DD   PGM=IEHMOVE
//WHALES   DD   DSN=MOVING.CREATURE
//FOWL     DD   DSN=MOVING.CREATURE
//SYSIN    DD   *
  BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY UNTIL OVERFLOW
//DAYSIX   EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY
//MAN      DD   DSN=GOD.IMAGE
//MALE     DD   DSN=MAN(ADAM)
//FEMALE   DD   DSN=MAN(EVE)
//SYSABEND DD   DSN=ETERNAL.HELL
//SYSIN    DD   *
   ALL THE DATASETS NOW EXIST. LET MAN TEND THE CONSOLE
   AND REPLENISH THE LINE PRINTER AND KEEP HIS MITTS OUT
   OF THE MICROCODE!
//DAYSEVEN EXEC PGM=ENTROPHY,COND=((IT IS GOOD,DAYSIX),ONLY)
//TIME     DD   DSN=ETERNITY
//SYSIND   DD   *
   NOW LET THE SYSTEM RUN, THE PANEL LIGHTS TWINKLE, AND THE DISKS
   FILL WITH DATA!
//

Author unknown. Found on IBM-MAIN, Dr. Bernies Site, USNET, and other places.

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NAME THE IBM PRODUCTS WHICH HAD THE FOLLOWING IDENTIFIERS DURING THEIR DEVELOPMENT:                                      
                                                                                
  AM/I       ______________________     NPL    ______________________            
 JUBILEE    ______________________     OAK    ______________________            
 COMANCHE   ______________________     PEACHTREE ____________________           
 CP         ______________________     27RN   ______________________
            

SUPER BONUS QUESTION: WHAT WAS Q10 ???                                     

AM/I
AM/I was the original name for a database system that eventually wound up being cut back in scope and renamed. AM/0. AM/0 came out as VSAM.                                        
                                                                                
NPL
NPL (for New Programming Language) was the original development name for PL/I. As that name became known, England's National Physics Laboratory objected, so the name was changed, briefly, to MPPL (for Multi-Purpose etc.) and then released as PL/I.                                                            
                                                                                
JUBILEE
JUBILEE was the development name for the 3800 laser printer         
                                                                                
OAK
OAK was the name given, following COMANCHE, to the 3850 Mass Storage System                                                      
                                                                                
COMANCHE
COMANCHE was the early development for the 3850 Mass Storage System                                                 
                                                                                
PEACHTREE
PEACHTREE was the development name for the Series/1.                
                                                                                
CP
CP was the original name for VM. (Part of VM is still called CP.)                                                   
                                                                                
27RN
27RN was the development name for the 3705 Communications Controller. (Would you believe the "RN" stood for "Really New?")
                                                                               
Q10
Right after the annoumcement of the System 360. IBM in California produced, for their marketing reps, a list of the most asked questions about it, together with "approved" answers. These were printed on cards, one question per card. Question 10, shown on the card as "Q10" was "Why Operating System/360?". At the next SHARE meeting Thomas Watson was the speaker at the General Session and the SHARE member who introduced him (who shall rename nameless here) said "Here's Mr. Watson, who will give the answer to Q10." Needless to say, Watson didn't know what it was all about, but after the session he asked his aides and, on finding out what was going on, gave orders to have ALL the Q cards recalled and destroyed immediately.                     

к сожалению, не смог найти источник sad

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С наступающим!


Сообщение отредактировал Gregory - Среда, 26.09.2012, 14:31
 
akostДата: Суббота, 28.12.2013, 11:14 | Сообщение # 12
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Gregory, спасибо за картинку, перенес ее в Новости! отлично!
 
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